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MacENC - GPSNavX - July 15, 2005 From the developer of GPSNavX comes MacENC MacENC is a marine charting and navigation application for Macintosh OS X that allows the use of the readily available free NOAA ENC vector marine charts... http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/enc/index.htm MacENC has all the great features and ease of use found in GPSNavX, but works seamlessly with the NOAA ENC vector charts. Scroll from one chart to the next. Click on any NavAid or other chart object and get full details in the object browser. MacENC will be available for purchase on August 1, 2005 (via Kagi). The MacENC CD will include all the NOAA ENC vector charts in addition to MacENC. The price for the MacENC CD will be US$99.95 (including first class postal shipping and one year of updates). Like GPSNavX, MacENC will continually be improved and updates will be sent out frequently via an email. Visit www.macenc.com for more details NOAA ENC vector charts included on MacENC CD.. Adak Island Sweeper Cove Finger and Scabbard Bays Adak Island to Tanaga Island Akutan Bay Altamaha Sound Amukta Island To Igitkin Island Anacortes to Skagit Bay Anclote Keys to Crystal River Annapolis Harbor Apalachicola Bay to Cape San Blas Apalachicola Bay to Lake Wimico Apostle Islands Including Chequamegon Bay Approaches to Admiralty Inlet Approaches to Cape Fear River Approaches to Chesapeake Bay Approaches to Everett Approaches to Galveston Bay Approaches to Mississippi River Approaches to New York Fire Island Light to Sea Girt Approaches to New York Nantucket Shoals to Five Fathom Bank Approaches to Nigara River and Welland Canal Approaches to Pearl Harbor Approaches to Penobscot Bay me Approaches to Port Canaveral Approaches to San Diego Bay Approaches to St Johns River Approaches to Strait of Juan de Fuca Destruction Island to Amphitrite Aransas Pass to Baffin Bay Ashland and Washburn Harbors Wisconsin Ashtabula Harbor Ashtabula to Chagrin River Ohio Atka Island To Chugul Island Atka Island Western Part Atka Pass to Adak Strait Attu Island - Theodore Point to Cape Wrangell Bahia De Boqueron Bahia De Fajardo and Approaches Bahia De Guayanilla and Bahia De Tallaboa Bahia De Jobos and Bahia De Rincon Bahia De Mayaguez and Approaches Bahia De Ponce and Approaches Bahia De San Juan Bahia Honda Key to Sugarloaf Key Baltimore Harbor Baptiste Collette Bayou to Mississippi River Gulf Outlet Bar Harbor-Mount Desert Island me Barataria Bay and Approaches Barren Islands Bay of Fundy to Cape Cod Bay of Islands Adak Island Bellingham Bay Bering Sea Southern Part Bering Sea - Northern Part A Bering Sea - Northern Part B Bering Sea - Southern Part B Big Spanish Channel to Johnston Key Block Island Sound and Approaches Block Island Sound And Gardiners Bay Boston Harbor Boston Inner Harbor Boundary Pass Bristol Bay Nushagak Bay and Approaches Buffalo Harbor Buffalo to Erie Buzzards Bay Calcasieu River and Lake Calumet and Indiana Harbors Cape Blanco to Yaquina Head Cape Canaveral to Key West Cape Cod Bay Cape Cod Canal and Approaches Cape Elizabeth to Portsmouth Cape Fear River Cape Flattery Cape Hatteras to Charleston Cape Hatteras to Straits of Florida Cape Hatteras Wimble Shoals to Ocracoke Inlet Cape Henry to Pamlico Sound Cape Kovrizhka to Cape Cheerful Cape Lookout to New River Cape May to Cape Hatteras Cape May to Fenwick Island Cape Resurrection to Two Arm Bay Cape Sable to Cape Hatteras Cape Spencer to Icy Point Cape St. George to Mississippi Passes Carquinez Strait Carrabelle to Apalachicola Bay Casco Bay A Casco Bay B Cedar Lakes to Espiritu Santo Bay Chandeleur and Breton Sounds Charleston Harbor Charleston Harbor and Approaches Charleston Harbor Entrance Charleston Light to Cape Canaveral Chaumont Henderson and Black River Bays Chernofski Harbor Chesapeake and Delaware Canal Chesapeake Bay Cape Charles to Norfolk Harbor Chesapeake Bay cape Charles to Wolf Trap Chesapeake Bay Approaches to Baltimore Harbor Chesapeake Bay Cape Henry to Thimble Shoal Light Chesapeake Bay Choptank River and Herring Bay Chesapeake Bay Eastern Bay and South River A Chesapeake Bay Eastern Bay and South River B Chesapeake Bay Entrance Chesapeake Bay Mobjack Bay and York River Entrance A Chesapeake Bay Mobjack Bay and York River Entrance B Chesapeake Bay Patuxent River and Vicinty Chesapeake Bay Pocomoke and Tangier Sounds Chesapeake Bay Wolf Trap to Pungoteague Creek Chicago and Vicinity Chicago Harbor Chicago Lake Front Christiansted Harbor Clayton to False Ducks lsland Cleveland Harbor Including Lower Cuyahoga River Cohasset and Scituate Harbors Columbia River juniper to Pasco Columbia River mcnary Dam to Juniper Columbia River Alderdale to Blalock Islands Columbia River Crims Island to Saint Helens Columbia River Harrington Point to Crims Island Columbia River John Day Dam to Blalock Columbia River Pacific Ocean to Harrington Point Columbia River Saint Helens to Vancouver Columbia River Sundale to Heppner Junction Columbia River to Destruction Island Columbia River Vancouver to Bonneville Columbia River, Pasco to Richland Controller Bay Cook Inlet Cook Inlet Approaches to Anchorage Cook Inlet Anchor Point to Kalgin Island Cook Inlet Kalgin Island to North Foreland Cook Inlet Northern Part Cook Inlet Southern Part Cook Inlet North Foreland Cooper River Above Goose Creek Corpus Christi Bay Corpus Christi Harbor Cross Sound to Yakutat Bay Dauphin Island Ala to Horn Island Miss Del Mar Boat Basin Delaware Bay Delaware River Philadelphia and Camden Waterfronts Delaware River Smyrna River to Wilmington Delaware River Wilmington to Philadelphia Delaware River-Philadelphia to Trenton-Main Panel Detour Passage to Waugoshance Point Detroit River Michigan Dixon Entrance to Cape St. Elias Doboy Sound to Fernandina Dog Keys Pass to Waveland Drier Bay Drum Bay to Galveston Bay Dry Tortugas Florida Duluth - Superior Harbor East River Newtown Creek Elk to Fort Bragg Ellender to Galveston Ensenada Honda Ensenada Honda Ensenada Honda to Canal De Luis Pena Entrance To San Francisco Bay Erie Harbor Erie to Geneva Everett Harbor Fairport Harbor Fall River Harbor ma Florida Keys Sombrero Key to Dry Tortugas Fort Lauderdale Port Everglades Fort Pierce Harbor Fowey Rocks to American Shoal Franklin D Roosevelt Lake Northern Part Left Panel Frederiksted Road Frenchman and Blue Hill Bays and Approaches Galveston Bay Entrancegalveston and Texas City Harbors Galveston to Rio Grande Geneva to Lorain Georges Bank and Nantucket Shoals Georges Bank East Part Spec Cht for Fishing Industry Georges Bank Western part Gore Point to Anchor Point Grand Haven Mich Including Spring Lake and Lower Grand River Grand Lake Grand Marias to Big Bay Point Guanica Light to Punta Tuna Light Gulf of Alaska Strait of Juan De Fuca to Kodiak Island Gulf of Maine and Georges Bank Gulf of the Farallones Hampton Roads Virginia Harlem River Havana to Tampa Bay Head of Chesapeake Bay Holland Harbor Honolulu Harbor Hood Canal - South Point to Quatsap Point including Dabob Bay Houston Ship Channel Houston Ship Channel Alexander Island to Carpenter Bayou Houston Ship Channel Carpenter Bayou to Houston Hudson and East Rivers - Governors Island to 67th Street Hudson River - Days Pt to George Washington Bridge Hudson River George Washington Bridge to Yonkers Huron Harbor Igitkin Island to Semisopochnoi Island A Igitkin Island to Semisopochnoi Island B Ingenstrem Rocks to Attu Island Intracoastal Waterway Grassy Key to Bahia Honda Key Intracoastal Waterway Matecumbe to Grassy Key Intracoastal Waterway Miami to Elliott Key Isla De Culebra and Approaches Island of Oahu Islands In Lake Erie Islands of Four Mountains Isle Royale Michigan Lake Superior bottom James River Jamestown Island to Jordan Point James River Jordan Point to Richmond James River Newport News to Jamestown Island Jupiter Inlet to Fowey Rocks Jupiter Inlet to Fowey Rocks Kamishak Bay Keweenaw Bay Lake Superior Keweenaw Waterway Michigan Including Torch Lake Key West Harbor Key West Harbor and Approaches Key West to the Mississippi River Kill Van Kull and Northern Part of Arthur Kill Kodiak and St Paul Harbors Korovin Bay to Wall Bay Kukak Bay Kuluk Bay and Approaches Kuskokwim Bay Laguna Madre Chubby Island to Stover Point Lake Charlevoix Lake Erie Lake Huron Lake Huron 6 Miles North of Oscoda Michigan to Forty Mile Point Light Lake Michigan Lake Michigan - Waugoshance Point to Seul Choix Point Lake Michigan Benona to Point Betsie Michigan Lake Michigan South Haven to Benona Michigan Lake Michigan Ten Miles North of Port Washington Wis to Waukegan Ill Lake Michigan Waukegan Ill to South Haven Mich Lake Ontario Lake Saint Clair Lake Superior Lake Superior - Beaver Bay to Pigeon Point Lake Superior - Big Bay Point to Redridge Mich Including Keweenaw Lake Superior - Little Girls Point Mich to Silver Bay Lake Superior Grand Portage Bay Minn to Shesheeb point Ont Including 1isle Roya Lake Superior Redridge Mich to Saxon Harbor Wis Lake Superior St Marys River to Au Sable Point Lake Washington Ship Canal and Lake Washington Lake Wimico to East Bay Side A & B Latouche Passage to Whale Bay Les Cheneaux Islands Michigan Little River Inlet to Winyah Bay Entrance Long Island Sound - Eastern Part Long Island Sound and East River - Hempstead Harbor to Tallman Island Long Island Sound Western Part Long Pond to Thirtymile Point Loop Deepwater Port Louisiana Offshore Oil Port Lorain Harbor Los Angeles and Long Beach Harbors Lower Niagara River Ontario New York Ludington Harbor Michigan Pere Marquette Lake Makushin Bay Manistee Harbor Michigan Manistee Lake Mare Island Straight Marquette and Presque Isle Harbors Michigan Marthas Vineyard to Block Island Massachusetts Bay Massacre Bay Matagorda Bay Matagorda Bay and Approaches Mermentau River to Freeport Miami Harbor Milwaukee Harbor Wisconsin Mississippi River New Orleans to Remy Mississippi River Delta Mississippi River to Galveston Mississippi River Venice to New Orleans Mississippi Sound and Approaches Mobile Bay Alabama Mobile Bay Approaches and Lower Half Mobile Bay to Mexico Monhegan Island to Cape Elizabeth Morehead City Harbor Morgan City to Port Allen Moss Point to Vermilion Mt Hope Bay ri-Ma Munising Harbor and Approaches Including Grand Island Muskegon Harbor Michigan Muskegon Lake Naked Island to Columbia Bay Nantucket Harbor Naval Amphibious Base Little Creek Navassa Island Nawiliwili Bay Nazan Bay and Amlia Pass Neah Bay Near Islands Buldir Island to Attu Island New Bedford Harbor and Approaches New Orleans Harbor Chalmette Slip to Southport New Orleans to Jacksonville New River Inlet to Cape Fear New York Harbor New York Harbor Upper Bay and Narrows Anchorage New York Lower Bay - Northern Part New York Lower Bay - Southern Part Niagara Falls to Buffalo Norfolk Harbor and Elizabeth River North End of Lake Michigan Including Green Bay North Pacific Ocean (eastern part) Bering Sea Continuation B North Shore Long Island Sound-Stratford to Sherwood Point North Shore of Long Island Sound - Greenwich Point to New Rochelle North Shore of Long Island Sound - Sherwood Point to Stamford Harbor Oak and Crescent Harbors Oak Bay to Shilshole Bay Puget Sound Olcott Harbor to Toronto Orca Bay and Inlet Channel Islands to Cordova Oswego Harbor Palm Shores to West Palm Beach Palm Shores to West Palm Beach Florida Kk-Ll Pamlico Sound Western Part Pasaje De San Juan to Puerto De Humacao Pasaje De Vieques and Radas Roosevelt Pascagoula Harbor Mississippi Passage Canal Including Port of Whittier Passaic and Hackensack Rivers Patuxent River Solomons Is and Vicinity Pearl Harbor - Oahu South Coast Penobscot Bay - Carvers Harbor and Approaches A Penobscot Bay - Carvers Harbor and Approaches B Penobscot Bay and Approaches Pensacola Bay Pensacola Bay and Approaches Pfeiffer Point to Cypress Point Pillsbury Sound Pilottown Point Arena to Trinidad Head Point Au Fer to Marsh Island Point Barrow to Herschel Island Point Conception to Point Sur Point Dume to Purisima Point Point Elrington to Cape Resurrection Point Elrington to East Chugach Island Point Sur to San Francisco Port Angeles Port Bay to Long Pond New York Port Canaveral Port Chatham Kenai Peninsula Port Clarence and Approaches Port Hueneme to Santa Barbara Port Huron to Point aux Barques Port Jefferson and Mount Sanai Harbors Port of Portland Including Vancouver Port Wells, College Fiord Portage and Wide Bays Portage Lake Portland Harbor and Vicinity A Portland Harbor and Vicinity B Portsmouth Harbor - Cape Neddick Harbor to Isles of Shoals Portsmouth Island to Beaufort, Including Cape Lookout Shoals Portsmouth to Cape Ann Portsmouth to Dover and Exeter Potomac River-Chesapeake Bay to Piney Point A Potomac River-Chesapeake Bay to Piney Point B Presque Isle and Stoneport Harbors Michigan Pribilof Islands Prince William Sound Prince William Sound Eastern Entrance Prince William Sound Western Entrance Prince William Sound Port Fidalgo and Valdez Arm Prince William Sound Valdez Arm and Port Valdez Prince William Sound Western Part Puerto Arroyo Puerto Maunabo Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands Puerto Yabucoa Puget Sound - Entrance to Hood Canal Puget Sound - Hood Canal to Dabob Bay Puget Sound - Northern Part Puget Sound - Shilshole Bay to Commencement Bay Puget Sound - Southern part Puget Sound Apple Cove Point to Keyport Puget Sound Hammersley Inlet to Shelton Puget Sound Seattle to Bremerton Punta Lima to Cayo Batata Punta Penon to Punta Vacia Talega Punta Petrona to Isla Caja De Muertos Quoddy Narrows to Petit Manan Island Racine Harbor Rappahannock River Entrance Piankatank and Great Wicomico Rivers Raritan Bay and Southern Part of Arthur Kill Raritan River Raritan Bay to New Brunswick Rat Islands Semisopochnoi Island to Buldir Island Rochester Harbor Genesee River to Head of Navigation Lake Ontarionew York 1 Rosario Stait to Cherry Point Rosario Strait - Northern Part Rosario Strait - Southern Part Sabine and Neches Rivers Sabine Bank Sabine Pass and Lake Saginaw Bay Michigan Saginaw River Michigan Saint Clair River Michigan A Saint Clair River Michigan B Salem, Marblehead and Beverly Harbors San Clemente Island San Clemente Island Pyramid Cove and Approaches San Diego Bay San Diego to Cape Mendocino San Diego to Santa Rosa Island San Francisco Bay Angel Island to Point San Pedro San Francisco Bay Candlestick Point to Angel Island San Francisco Bay Southern Part San Francisco to Point Arena San Juan Channel San Luis Pass to East Matagorda Bay San Miguel Passage San Pablo Bay San Pedro Bay Sand Key to Blackwater Sound Sandusky Harbor Ohio Santa Barbara Island Santa Rosa Sound to Wolf Bay Savannah River and Wassaw Sound Savannah River Approach Savannah River Savannah to Brier Creek Seal Rocks to Gore Point Seattle Harbor Shemya Island to Attu Island Sinclair Inlet Six Miles South of Stony Point to Port Bay Sixteenmile Creek to Conneaut Sodus Bay South Coast of Oahu Kalaeloa South End of Lake Huron Including Head of St Clair River South Haro Strait Middle Bank to Stuart Island South Shore of Long Island Sound - Oyster and Huntington Bays Southern Part of Laguna Madre St Andrew Sound and Satilla River St Andrew Sound and Satilla River Continuation of Satilla River St George Island St Helena Sound to Savannah River St Johns River - Atlantic Ocean to Jacksonville Florida St Johns River Atlantic Ocean to Jacksonville Florida St Joseph and Benton Harbor Michigan St Joseph and St Andrews Bays St Marys River Lake Huron to Lake Munscong St Marys River Lake Munuscong to Sault Ste Marie St Mays River Head of Lake Nicolet to Whitefish Bay St Paul Island St Simons Sound Brunswick Harbor and Turtle River St Thomas Harbor St. Andrew Bay - Bear Point to Sulpher Point Stockton Deep Water Channel, Antioch to Medford Stono and North Edisto Rivers Stover Point to Port Brownsville Strait of Georgia and Strait of Juan de Fuca Strait of Juan de Fuca Eastern Part Strait of Juan De Fuca Entrance Straits of Florida and Approaches Straits of Florida Fowey Rocks, Hillsboro Inlet to Bimini Islands, Bahamas Straits of Mackinac Sturgeon Point to Twenty Mile Creek Tacoma Harbor Tagalak Island to Great Sitkin Island Tallman Island to Queensboro Bridge Tampa Bay Tampa Bay and Approaches Tampa Bay to Cape San Blas Tanaga Bay and Approaches Tanaga Island To Unalga Island Tangier Sound - Northern Part Thirtymile Point, N.Y., to Port Dalhousie, Ont. Timbalier and Terrebonne Bays Timbalier and Terrebonne Bays Toledo Harbor Trenton Channel Detroit River and Rouge River Trinidad Head to Cape Blanco 18600 Umnak Pass and Approaches Unakwik Inlet to Esther Passage and College Fiord Unalaska Island Kuliliak Bay to Surveyor Bay Unalaska Island Protection Bay to Eagle Bay Unalaska Island Chernofski Harbor to Skan Bay Unalaska Island To Amukta Island Upper Galveston Bay Virgin Islands Virgin Gorda to St Thomas and St Croix Virgin Passage and Sonda De Vieques Waveland to Catahoula Bay Wax Lake Outlet to Forked Island West Bay to Santa Rosa Sound West Coast of North America Dixon Ent to Unimak Pass West Coast of North America Mexican Border to Dixon Entrance West Coast of Puerto Rico West End of Lake Erie Michigan West Quoddy Head to New York Westport River and Approaches White Lake Willamette River - Swan Island Basin Winyah Bay to Bulls Bay Womens Bay Yaquina Head to Columbia River ******************************** Mac Charting & Navigation www.gpsnavx.com www.macenc.com ******************************** - Eclipsemullet - July 16, 2005 So, there are now two separate apps, right? Hmmm, my initial thoughts are ones of slight disappointment. Why two apps? --Andy Cowes UK Upgrade path? - phowson - July 16, 2005 I too am disappointed that we now have 2 different apps. However, given the difficulty of implimenting 2 differrent rendering engines, I can understand the difference. What I do find vexing is that on some level I view this application (even though the name has been changed) as GPSNavX version 4.0. As such I am curious as to whether or not there will be an upgrade path for current GPSNavX owners. At the very least I would like there to be a download version that was software only for those of us who are willing to go and get the charts from NOAA on our own... Not for nothing, but it would be nice if the loyal customers who have paid for the old app would get some kind of thank you for their financial support and for submitting suggestions that (hopefully) are helpful to the developers. - GPSNavX - July 16, 2005 When MacENC is ordered via Kagi you will recieve a download link to MacENC in addition to receiving a CD with MacENC and the NOAA charts. While some are able to download the 300MB file of compressed NOAA charts, many do not have a fast enough connection. US$99 for an S-57 ENC navigation application is an absolute bargain. Compare with the Windows counter parts. MacENC has been under development for over a year. While it may share some of the look and feel of GPSNavX it is a totally new application designed to take advantage of the S-57 objects. MacENC will continue to be improved building on the plusses of vector charts. GPSNavX will remain and be improved/supported as raster charts still are quite common. - cyberhusky - July 17, 2005 Great to hear! S57 support came faster than expected. :-) At first I was disappointed too that it is a new program, but as GPSNavX team stated it has been in development since over 1 year and that it´s a new written program. So a second program isn´t that bad as it appears as it looks like the program works quite the same way as GPSNavX. So no big learning curve here. As for the price it´s really ok! If you look at the ideas wrote in another thread (ideas for GPSNavX) I would even pay more for it! The only real problem I have is if MacENC will compatible with S-57 (ENC) from private companies. As original professional (commercial navigation) S-57 charts are quite expensive, several 100-1000 Euro per region. On the other hand the French SHOM hydrographic institution wants from 2006 on publish ENC charts which are cheaper than paper charts, as the new French laws (2005) allows for electronic charts instead of paper charts! Compatibility with Digital Nautical Chart - captdennis - July 18, 2005 Hello All, I'm new to this group. Will this program work with the Digital Nautical Charts. They are Vector Charts that work on PCs using either "CaptMosaic" or "ICE". I'm looking for a program to use with my Mac that will work with my world wide portfolio of the DNC charts. Thanks for any help you can provide. Regards, Captdennis[/u] MacENC Demo? - cyberhusky - July 19, 2005 Will there be a demo available of MacENC which can load different S57 charts so that we Europeans can test the prog with European ENC maps? S-57 coverage - GPSNavX - July 22, 2005 Here is a site with a map showing coverage.. http://www.hidrografico.pt/website/ic_enc_coverage/viewer.htm The International Center for ENC's.. http://www.ic-enc.org/ Re: Upgrade path? - JackConnick - July 25, 2005 phowson Wrote:As such I am curious as to whether or not there will be an upgrade path for current GPSNavX owners. At the very least I would like there to be a download version that was software only for those of us who are willing to go and get the charts from NOAA on our own... I totally agree. I know that you've put a lot of time into the new program and you deserve compensation. However, when I bought MacGPS nearly two years ago, I asked if you would support the NOAA charts with it. You said yes, and I think even stated that support was forthcoming on a couple of occasions, never mentioning a new program at twice the cost. I understand that it had to become another program and take much more work. BUT, I do feel you owe your adopters of MacGPS a less expensive upgrade than full-price for the above reasons. I also think offering it on a less expensive basis, perhaps without the charts as an upgrade would tempt current users to upgrade. Right now I'm not going to change, there isn't any reason to. And I feel a little let down by your lack of consideration to a loyal installed user base. Jack MacGPS? - GPSNavX - July 25, 2005 I do not produce a product called "MacGPS" so I cannot speak for what the developer of that program told you. MacENC is not an upgrade to GPSNavX, but a totally new program that takes complete advantage of the S-57 vector ENC's. For example you can see a "light list" of any S-57 chart and scroll right to any object on the chart. Raster charts are not going away and I will continue to improve GPSNavX. Both S-57 and BSB charts have their uses so I would not try to sway anyone to move over to S-57 vector charts. Sorry GPSNavX - JackConnick - July 25, 2005 And I refer you to your post in the GPSNavX forum: Quote:Development is progressing well. The expectation is to have support in less than 60 days...I do believe S-57 Vector charts are the future for marine navigation so that will be the focus for the forseeable future. And you most definitely did state that you would support ENC in emails when I bought GPSNavX and I've waited patiently for that feature. Look, all things change I know. But you should think about showing some consideration to your supporters as you move in this new direction. Jack Feedback from MacENC? - oldsalt - August 2, 2005 Has anyone installed and used the new application? Interested in hearing feedback. - ReeferJon - August 3, 2005 Has MacENC actually been released yet? I know that GPSNavX's last email stated that it was available from 1st August, but there's been no subsequent announcement... actually this forum's been pretty quiet too... Hope there's going to be a demo version... MacENC 1.0 - GPSNavX - August 3, 2005 Yes MacENC 1.0 was shipped both physically and electronically on Monday August 1st. Even made Kagi's top 50 list, ranking #6 for weekly sales!! Thank you!! Now being MacENC is a 1.0 there is still room for improvement. I expect MacENC 1.1 will be released this Monday will several improvements based on great customer feedback. When I get a breather I will put together a demo version of MacENC. Re: Feedback from MacENC? - ginginsman - August 15, 2005 oldsalt Wrote:Has anyone installed and used the new application? Installed v 1.2 today on the Mac mini, 1.42 Ghz, 1 GB RAM. So far it's only installed onshore, and I hope to have the setup aboard this week for a trial run. The most obvious thing is that with 4 cells loaded (Casco Bay A & B, Portland Harbor A & B) basic operations (zoom in, etc) seem to give me the spinning beach ball every time before completing; very slow. Reducing the display to a single cell loaded improves the zoom a LOT. Likely it's not intended to have many open at once, though that might be sueful for route planning? No other apps running. I don't know if this is normal for a mini with this app. The detail is good, though as we know, it bears no resemblance to Maptech raster scanned charts at all, especially with respect to terrestrial features and contours. Anyone else using it so far? - GPSNavX - August 16, 2005 Like GPSNavX, MacENC will be continually improved. Look for significant improvements in S-57 ENC rendering in the near future. An ENC is like a CAD drawing, made up of thousands of features (objects) that are made up of hundreds of lines. There are lots of advantages with this format - layers, antialiasing, built in navaid list, etc. The downside is the rendering to the screen does take longer than raster charts. Question about the S-57 standard - phowson - August 18, 2005 In playing with MacENC I have noticed that objects have certain properties not related so much to navigation as they are related to rendering. I am referring spcifically to the "Show below resolution 1:x" which determines when an object gets rendered. Does anyone know what the logic behind continuing the paradigm of having charts over simply creating a superset of datapoints that are rendered when the engine hits a certain resoution? From a user perspective, it feels like (and this is just me guessing) a significant piece of the rendering overhead comes from this cell situation. This problem could be obviated if the data was a little less chart oriented and a little more data oriented. One option would be to convince all of the hydrographic offices to change their standard again (that was humor). A more realistic concept would be to write an application that would walk all the data sets in the cells and flatten the information so that rather than rendering a specific cell, the application would be rendering just the points within a given quadrangle at a given resolution. The data set would have to be recreated every time NOAA updated the info, but if you had already written the application to walk the NOAA data, that shouldn't be a big deal. Does that make sense or am I losing my marbles? - GPSNavX - August 18, 2005 No you are not losing your marbles. The S-57 ENC organizes the data such that each cell (chart) is in a different file (in a folder under the catalog file). These cells are made up of 1000's of features (objects) that are made up of 1000's of lines or points. Each feature has a minimum scale at which it will be displayed. Since MacENC is designed to work straight from the (NOAA) S-57 ENC data it is definitely oriented towards the cells. It would be both memory and time prohibitive to load every cell and flatten it into one giant cell. What some chart app developers have done is make their own version of the S-57 ENC data and call it SENC. Instead of organizing it by cells, they have organized it by what is displayed at any given scale. The downside is now these apps require you to use their proprietary versions of this S-57 ENC data which they charge for. CapN 8.0 is a good example of this. So not only do you have to pay $400+, but you have to pay for the charts!! I wanted the MacENC users to be able to use the very latest S-57 data without having to pay for a special proprietary version of the *free* data. Each release of MacENC will continue to improve upon rendering speed performance. Theoretical question - phowson - August 19, 2005 Not to ask a brutally stupid question, but does the application check every point to determine if it should render it or is there some way of treating it like a database and rendering only a found set of objects that are meant to be displayed at a given resolution? If there were a way to index certain fields it might reduce the volume of what needs to be rendered significantly thereby reducing the load on the application and speeding up the rendering. Of course now that I've written it down it looks painfully like I am stating the obvious. - GPSNavX - August 19, 2005 Quote:but does the application check every point to determine if it should render it or is there some way of treating it like a database and rendering only a found set of objects that are meant to be displayed at a given resolution? That would be horribly inefficient to check every point. So yes MacENC queries the cell (chart) for features (objects) to be rendered for the selected scale. - cyberhusky - August 19, 2005 Hi Has anyone tested MacENC with European S57 charts yet? Or are there any FREE/DEMO S57 Cells of Europe I can try with MacENC (Demo version)? Thx for any info. - davidbains - September 8, 2005 Second that, any info on using MacENC in Europe yet? |