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Title: Wifi and Macs
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Looking for the best solution for receiving wifi on our mac while at marina or at anchor. We've not had good luck getting reception (our Toshiba connects much better) and are looking for the most cost effective external set-up.

We saw posts on Panbo.com recommending a Linksys WET54G Bridge and purchased one from Amazon, but haven't been able to get it to work, or even to take commands using the web interface.

The other options we've run across are
http://www.radiolabs.com/products/wireless/waverv.php
http://www.macwireless.com/html/products...plete.html

I was hoping for something that would work with ethernet, possibly using POE so it would be fairly compact. Have friends using low loss coax to an antenna on the mast, but the cable takes up lots of room.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

We're currently in Rock Hall, MD after a three week siesta while our engine was being replaced. Plan to resume cruising this week.

Best regards,
Mark
aboard s/v Intuition
 
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#2
http://www.macgeekery.com/opinion/articl...less_range
Scott Dillon
Sydney Australia
North Shore 38
CYCA
 
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#3
Try these people for Mac-specific WiFi:

http://www.quickertek.com

They design and sell external antennas and tranceivers which can really boost WiFi range. Some Mac case designs, especially aluminum, are know to be range-limiting.
 
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#4
Looked at Quickertech and their marine wifi looks ideal, but is out of our price range at a thousand dollars and there is no provision for return if it doesn't work out well. From their disclaimer it sounds like they were burned by some returns in the past.

Mark
 
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#5
I looked in to Qickertec - seemed like the package they suggested was only about $500. What exactly did they suggest for you?

Pat
 
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#6
The marine wireless set-up is at:

www.quickertek.com/marine_wireless.php

Mark
 
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#7
Yet another option may be Port Networks out of Baltimore. We may sail over there this week and check them out. Has anyone had experience with their products?

http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT...ory.199/.f

http://www.portnetworks.com/

Regards,
Mark
 
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#8
The solution partly depends on whether you have a PowerBook or iBook/MacBook. I had a Titanium PowerBook for several years and bought a PC card with an external antenna connector. For that I recommend the Senao 2511. This uses the Prism 2.5 chipset and has very high sensitivity with high output power (200 mw) I sail up and down the Puget Sound and the Straits of Georgia quite a bit and can connect to many marina wi-fi radios from several miles out. I have two antennas, one omni and the other directional. I built them myself and bought the Senao card on eBay for a total cost under $100.

If all the above is gobblygook then a great place to start learning:
http://www.seattlewireless.net/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

They also have an excellent hardware comparison array:
http://www.seattlewireless.net/HardwareComparison

and a great info page specific to the Mac:
http://www.seattlewireless.net/MacOS

I have a MacBook now and am tweaking a USB solution though I find the sensitivity of the MacBook airport card to be sufficient for excellent connectivity if tucked in a marina. Since I work in a marine science lab in the San Juan Islands I often sail across the San Juan channel and anchor for the night. I can get a weak but workable connection to my work wireless with the MacBook without an antenna. Since I manage the wireless network I did cheat by pointing one of our radios over to the bay :wink:

If you don't want to do it yourself the marine ISP I use has custom built setups that are cheaper than the ones quoted earlier. They also use cards with the Prism 2.5 chipset:

http://www.bbxpress.net/
 
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#9
We visited the Port Networks office since they are right here in Baltimore's Inner Harbor. A tech guy demonstrated their products and answered all our questions. Ended up buying a MWB-200 with the 12 volt Power over Ethernet injector for $399. Set it up this afternoon and we're getting all kinds of signals that the mac wouldn't pick up before. It is a small, seailed box that can be mounted on the deck and only the Cat5 ethernet cable needs to run to it. Since we're still "enjoying" the remnants of TS Ernesto here we haven't even put it outside and we're getting good signal. The unit is platform agnostic and we tried it with both our 17" powerbook and the Toshiba Satellite. The configuration utility didn't like Safari, but it worked fine with Firefox. There is a 30 Money Back Guarantee, so we'll try it out around the bay for a few weeks. Can upgrade the antenna if needed, but so far, so good.

Mark
 
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#10
Found this on Panbo..

http://www.panbo.com/yae/archives/001380.html
Scott Dillon
Sydney Australia
North Shore 38
CYCA
 
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#11
I bought a Quickertek antenna for my MBP, and I have to say I'm not all that impressed, for the following reasons:
Build quality is poor (looks like a standard cheap plastic case from RS, and mines distorted).
My instructions were a poorly printed sheaf of A4 paper that had obviously been used by someone else, with various scribbles here and there.
The supplied software on CD-R was poorly organised into badly named folders, with filenames that didn't correpond with those given in the instructions.
The instructions themselves were a bit unclear in places.
The unit does seem to work in as far as relaying an airport signal, but mine has no affect on reception strength or quality.
The supplied charger was a US model, 110v, so useless in the UK - a pretty basic error for an electronics company to make.
And, worst of all in my view, is that when I emailed them in mid-August with these issues they didn't reply.
Buying in the UK also means paying a fairly hefty import duty as well.
If I get a decent response from Quickertek support I'll let you know, to set the record straight, but at the moment I wouldn't recommend them.
 
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#12
Quote:If I get a decent response from Quickertek support I'll let you know, to set the record straight, but at the moment I wouldn't recommend them.

Your mileage may vary. For all I know they might well be decent and competent folks, and that my situation just fell between the cracks.

In my situation, their first two units fell apart in my home/office environment. I certainly would not even try to use it on my boat.

In this rather costly experiment, I ended up paying for three units. They never did seem the least willing to credit me with anything at all for the two units they received back from me. Oh well...sigh....
 
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#13
I've now had a reply from a tech support guy at Quickertek, who was very apologetic for the delay, and also fairly helpful in answering most of my queries.
I'm still not convinced of the product quality, or of the effectiveness in terms of actually boosting the wireless signal by all that much, but I probably need to try it out more thoroughly. My lack of understanding of wi-fi aerial technology probably isn't helping me - it could be that a better antenna would be worthwhile.
 
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#14
Intuition Wrote:We visited the Port Networks office since they are right here in Baltimore's Inner Harbor. A tech guy demonstrated their products and answered all our questions. Ended up buying a MWB-200 with the 12 volt Power over Ethernet injector for $399...Mark

Mark and Beth;

Is this set-up working for you?

Meredith
 
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#15
This has turned out to be an expensive experiment. Mine has now given up - the lid popped off while I was using it as the batteries had decided to overheat and expand to about 3 times their correct size. This explains my earlier comment about the distorted case (above).
I'm going to email a picture to Quickertek. I don't want a replacement - it'll cost me another £50 import tax.
I can honestly say that it never once made any difference to internet access - if my laptop could get a connection it would do so, if it couldn't, the Quickertek could'nt either.
A total waste of time and money.
 
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#16
Hi All,

I have ordered a 5Ghz/2.4Ghz Atheros 300mW 802.11a/b/g Cardbus Card (DT-RWU-SRC) and 4GHz 7dBi Omni / Vertical with 6' cable, MMCX and Mag Mount (DT-AN-24-OV-7-MMCX).

The driver is from Orange Ware.

I plan on using them in November in the BVI's with BVI Marine WiFi (http://www.bvimarinewifi.com/)

I let you know how it works out.

Jim
 
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#17
I tried Quickerteck too - Total loss of $. I then switched to the Portnetworks device. Hey! this one is the "hot lick" - it works!!! No PCMCIA card, no Drivers. It plugs into your ETHERNET port and it gets everything. But it dosen't like Safari but Firefox handels it perfectly. This outfit has figured out the Wi-fi for us sailors. Portnetworks.com .
 
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Quote:Hi All,

I have ordered a 5Ghz/2.4Ghz Atheros 300mW 802.11a/b/g Cardbus Card (DT-RWU-SRC) and 4GHz 7dBi Omni / Vertical with 6' cable, MMCX and Mag Mount (DT-AN-24-OV-7-MMCX).

The driver is from Orange Ware.

I plan on using them in November in the BVI's with BVI Marine WiFi (http://www.bvimarinewifi.com/)

I let you know how it works out.

Jim

On my way back to the Pacific Northwest and thought I'd give you all an update on how the Atheros card with antenna and Orange Ware driver worked.

We tied to anchoring balls most of the time... probably between 500 and 1000 feet off-shore. Reception was excellent in all cases. At 1500 feet from shore we were still getting 50% + on the signal strength.
Several boaters complained about reception and mentioned they were moving onto to other anchorages were they could get closer to shore...

All in all this combination worked great.
 
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