August 20, 2008 14:16
Scott Dillon
Sydney Australia
North Shore 38
CYCA
Sydney Australia
North Shore 38
CYCA
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GPSNavX Wrote:[color:red]Only[/color] AyeTides DOES NOT require an internet connection to display tidal and current data.And yet, in one day, that changes.
ActiveCaptain Wrote:Yikes! Sorry - looks like you're right. I saw the new app in the iStore and figured that it must implement the algorithm locally. I didn't actually try it.Not sure just what is going on here....you seem to have some animosity towards AyeTides but it's not clear if you've even used it. Do you have an iPhone? If you've got a problem with AyeTides, why don't you just come out and say so? This isn't the place start a commercial battle with innuendo and widely inaccurate statements.
You can bet that there will be other implementations of XTide for the iPhone.
By the way, how do you get around the open source license by charging for AyeTides? I always thought that it's the reason why cTide (Windows Mobile) and Tile Tool (Palm) are completely free.
ActiveCaptain Wrote:Now just calm down. I have nothing against AyeTides. And yes, I have an iPhone. I've been developing software for the Mac since 1986 and even have an Eddy award under my belt (you've got to go way back to even know what that is). In addition to that, my wife used to work for Apple and we have more 7-color Apple branded stuff than most Apple Stores have on display (the good 1990's stuff too).
Not to pile on but we've also been writing a series of articles on Mad Mariner all about using smartphones on boats. There have been 10 articles in the series so far with the final one being published tomorrow. You can view them all at:
http://www.madmariner.com/mobile_phones
The article from last week was all about the iPhone. In it, we mentioned AyeTides giving it one of the first wide exposures to the boating community. I probably provided more publicity for it than any other channel so far. In my quest to make sure the information in the article is up-to-date, I'm keeping track of new apps that show up for the iPhone that are boating-related. That's how I came across Tide Graph.
Yes, I made a mistake about how Tide Graph works. It wasn't very obvious to me that it needed an internet connection and it appeared like it didn't. Who would really want an network-required app like this? It makes no sense.
To go even further with this nonsense, I've added code to Tide Tool myself and I'm very familiar with it. I'm the one who fixed it when Palm moved to v5 of their OS. I'm also very familiar with XTide and the various ports of that code.
Mr. AugustH writes on his own web site that:
"I've written Mr. Tides so that the Macintosh can display tides. This program is based (roughly) on XTide 2.8 by Dave Flater." Perhaps I wrongly assumed that he also used this code and all of the tide/current station data from XTide as a part of AyeTides. It seems incredible that Mr. AugustH was able to put together so much of those harmonic coefficients by himself.
If all of this was developed outside the open source license of Dave Flater, great. I applaud the app and wish it the best of success. If it is stealing from the open source community, then it shouldn't be tolerated. In issues like this, I assume that it is all open and above board. The truth usually has a way of coming to the surface.
GPSNavX Wrote:The truth has come out about the motive of ActiveCaptain.It has? This is truly the land of the bizarre. I'm honestly sorry that I stumbled into this love fest for AyeTides. All I was trying to originally do was provide information about a brand new tide application. After writing an article viewed by thousands of boaters talking about iNavX and AyeTides, I thought it would be fair to show that there were others. That's the big secret to my "motive".
GPSNavX Wrote:Instead get to work on ActiveCaptain for iPhone because you have promised it!Don't worry Rich. Your wish will happen giving you much more time to spend on MacENC.